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BLUE MUMDAYS
Vikki Stephenson
Blue MumDays is a podcast about perinatal illness, parenting and being kind to yourself. Up to 1 in 5 mums and 1 in 10 dads will suffer with their mental health after the birth of their baby. Having once interviewed the likes of Sir David Attenborough and Hans Zimmer during my BBC career, I’m now speaking to mums, dads and mental health experts each week, in an effort to understand my own experience of postnatal depression. Dispelling myths, smashing stigma & bringing hope to parents having a hard time.
Categorias: Para toda la familia
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To launch Blue MumDays Season 3, host Vikki welcomes Sarah Edge, a perinatal specialist psychotherapist. In the first part of their discussion, Sarah shares her deeply personal and emotional journey through pregnancy, childbirth, and the complex challenges of infant feeding. She discusses her experiences with breastfeeding trauma and grief and the stark contrast between her expectations and the reality of motherhood. Sarah offers heartfelt advice to parents struggling with similar issues, emphasising the importance of compassion and seeking support. The episode also explores societal pressures and the impact of invalidation on mental health.
*Trigger Warning: *birth trauma, neonatal intensive care, breastfeeding trauma, feelings of suicide and baby loss.
In This Episode We Discuss:
[00:00] Teaser quote
[04:40] Not enjoying the pregnancy/not being what she’d expected or planned/sickness.
[08:27] Sensitivity and being self-conscious during pregnancy about how she looked
[08:04] Pregnancy isn’t an illness but it can be a hard slog on the body and mind. Expectations vs. reality.
[15:24] The birth – labour at 36 weeks. Family history of this. Primal urge to birth on her own.
[23:33] The ‘rush of love’ – actually quite rare.
[24:30] The birth took a turn – vomiting and post-partum haemorrhage.
[25:57] First attempts at breastfeeding, when things got really difficult.
[30:41] Feeling nervous about being sent home from hospital and the fear of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome)
[32:43] Severe jaundice - A+E and panic attack. The ramping up of anxiety. Jack in an incubator.
[37:05] Turning a corner, starting formula feeding.
[39:15] The toll of triple feeding and sleep deprivation on Sarah’s mental health. Start of suicidal thoughts. Rock bottom.
[43:17] Understanding breast feeding trauma.
[48:56] Finding out what works best for you and your family.
[49:50] Writing about her experience – the importance of sharing our struggles.
[52:09] Invalidation and trauma.
[56:37] Breastfeeding grief and how you won’t lose that precious bond.
[01:01:49] Sarah’s experience second time around, with her daughter.
[01:05:32] Compassion is the antidote to trauma.
Key Takeaways:
1. Click this link for more information on Sarah Edge and her Maternal Mental Health services
2. Information here on The Fed is Best Foundation, which supports all families to safely feed their babies whether they feed with breast, bottle, or both (combination feeding).
3. Read Sarah’s article on Infant Feeding Trauma here on the Fed is Best website.
4. Adjustment disorder is a mental health condition that occurs when someone has an unhealthy or excessive reaction to a stressful event or life change. Symptoms can include stress, sadness or hopelessness, negative thoughts and changes in behaviour.
5. For information and support on hyperemesis gravidarum (HG is extreme sickness during pregnancy), click this link for Pregnancy Sickness Support. They are the only UK registered charity dedicated to offering support and evidence-based information to those affected by pregnancy sickness. They helped Sarah during her experience of HG.
6. NICU means a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit, which is a hospital unit providing specialised care for newborn babies who are sick or premature.
7. Phototherapy is a special light treatment sometimes used to treat newborn jaundice. It aims to expose the baby’s skin to as much light as possible, making it easier for the baby’s liver to break down and remove bilirubin from their blood.
8. Triple feeding is a short-term breastfeeding method involving breastfeeding, pumping and bottle-feeding. The aim is to increase natural milk production whilst ensuring the baby is getting enough to eat.
9. SIDS stands for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Read NHS information on SIDS here.
10. Listen to 'When Birth Leads to Trauma' with Dr. Becca Moore of Make Birth Better here
11. Listen now to Dr Orinayo Onabanjo's episode on 'Mum Guilt, Trauma and Systemic Inequality'
12. Self compassion is so important when recovering from trauma. Listen to 'Self Compassion with Poonam Dhuffer' via this link
13. For anyone seeking support on baby loss, we hope the following links are helpful: Click this link for the Sands Charity, information on Petals, the baby loss counselling charity and click for information on Mayah's Legacy, the charity to support those who have lost a baby.
14. This link leads you to the Lactation Consultants of Great Britain website. A lactation consultant can help you with breastfeeding issues and advice. Sally Rickard of Baby Thrive will be featured in an upcoming episode to discuss breastfeeding.
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Email: bluemumdays@gmail.com
Next Episode:
In the second part of this interview, Sarah Edge talks to host Vikki about her struggle with hyperemesis gravidarum (HG, or extreme sickness during pregnancy) and her battle with postnatal depression, following the birth of her daughter. (Released Monday 7th October 2024).
YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND WILL NOT FEEL THIS WAY FOR EVER.
We hope these support services are helpful (please note we do not check or monitor them individually).
Action on Postpartum Psychosis (APP)
Moderated Forum, click here to find out more.
Email: app@app-network.org / Tel: 020 3322 9900
AIMS for better birthing.
Email: helpline@aims.org.uk
This email will go to a group of AIMS volunteers and someone will respond as soon as possible. / Telephone: +44 (0) 300 365 0663 (leave message)
Andy's Man Club
A non-judgemental talking group for men
https://andysmanclub.co.uk/club-information/clubs/ info@andysmanclub.co.uk
Association of Postnatal Illness
Helpline: 10am – 2pm – 0207 386 0868 / Email: info@apni.org (Live chat online facility)
Free NHS-accredited Baby Buddy app offering 24/7 App support for new parents
Email: support@birthtraumaassociation.org.uk
Contact CALM on their national helpline: 0800 58 58 58 (5pm-midnight)
Email: lwise@talktalk.net (Liz Wise) / Mobile: 07773 283556
Contact: for families with disabled children
Support, advice and information for parents with disabled children.
- helpline: 0808 808 3555
- website: https://contact.org.uk/
Contact a Family
www.cafamily.org.uk
Contact a Family offer support for all childhood conditions, are also able to put families in touch. Featuring a directory of conditions and rare disorders online.
Helpline: 0808 808 3555 (lines open Monday – Friday 9.30am – 5pm)
Support dads to have successful relationships with their families, with mental health and accessing services through peer support and signposting.
kierananders@homestarthost.org.uk
0161 344 0669
Offers support and knowledge through a community of dads on practical parenting and fatherhood.
A digital safe space for fathers who wish to discuss their experiences of being black, a parent and masculinity in the modern world. hello@dopeblack.org
Family Lives
An organisation providing immediate help from volunteer parent support workers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Helpline: 0808 800 2222 / www.familylives.org.uk
Family Rights Group
Support for parents and other family members whose children are involved with or need social care services. Helpline: 0808 801 0366 / www.frg.org.uk
Link for information on Fathers Reaching Out
Run by paternal mental health pioneer Mark Williams, offering support to dads.
Scott Mair is a consultant in paternal mental health and parent education, Peer support trainer. Dad, Husband, Army veteran.
A grassroots organisation committed to changing Black women and birthing people’s maternal health outcomes in the UK. Email: fivexmore@gmail.com
Gingerbread
Single parents, equal families. Help and advice on the issues that matter to lone parents. Helpline 0808 802 0925 / www.gingerbread.org.uk
The Hub of Hope - A directory of mental health support around the UK.
Link for the Lactation Consultants of Great Britain – for support with breastfeeding.
Supporting LGBT+ women & people globally on the path to motherhood or parenthood.
Email: contact@lgbtmummies.com
Make Birth Better (Birth Trauma Support)
Email: hello@makebirthbetter.org
Peer support available, email info@maternalocd.org to arrange
Supporting and empowering anyone who has experienced pregnancy loss to advocate for themselves. Email: info@bigoutreach.org / 0300 102 1596
Dedicated to sharing and supporting the black maternal experience through peer support, projects and advocacy. info@themotherhoodgroup.com
Offering Trauma, Mindfulness and Meditation sessions for Mothers and Mums to be with an NHS Mental Health Specialist, who’s also a Mother. motivationalmumsclub@gmail.com
Music Football Fatherhood - hello@musicfootballfatherhood.com
Open conversations around fatherhood, including blogs, peer support and podcasts.
Helpline: 0800 999 5786, open Mon-Fri 10am–4pm with support offered in English, Urdu, Punjabi, Mirpuri, Putwari, Hindko and Bengali. Email: info@mwnhelpline.co.uk
Online chat: www.mwnhelpline.co.uk / Text: 07415 206 936
National Autistic Society www.autism.org.uk
Support and advice for parents and carers of autistic children, including support to develop a greater understanding of their child’s needs and accessing services that meet the family's needs.
Netmums offer peer support via their Maternal Mental Health Drop-InClinic.
NHS Services for Mental Health Issues
Contact your local GP surgery. Call the NHS on 111 and press 2 for Mental Health Team
or contact a local NHS urgent mental health helpline
If you are in crisis, visit Accident & Emergency at your nearest hospital.
Helpline open from 9am-8pm every day – 0843 2898 401
Email support available – info@pandasfoundation.org.uk
PRENATAL, PREGNANCY AND POSTPARTUM SUPPORT & CONNECTION in Canada
Petals Baby Loss Charity - click for information
Petals offers free-of-charge specialist counselling to anyone who has experienced pregnancy or baby loss. Tel: 0300 688 0068
Web: petalscharity.org/counsellingcontact/ Email: counselling@petalscharity.org
Click for information on The Samaritans
Tel: 116 123 (this is a free telephone number and will not appear on the phone bill)
Web: www.samaritans.org / Email: jo@samaritans.org
Episodios anteriores
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38 - Breastfeeding Trauma and Grief: Sarah Edge (Part 1) Mon, 02 Sep 2024
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37 - Blue MumDays Season 3 Teaser Mon, 02 Sep 2024 - 0h
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36 - Perinatal Rage + O.C.D: LAURA BISBEY Mon, 01 May 2023
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35 - My Kids' Birth Unlocked My Childhood Trauma: NICK RAEBURN Sun, 09 Apr 2023 - 0h
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34 - World Down Syndrome Day Special: JANNAH AND MUSA'S STORY Tue, 21 Mar 2023 - 0h
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33 - The One About Hormones - POI, PMDD, Endometoriosis + PME: Dr HANNAH SHORT Thu, 16 Mar 2023
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32 - Navigating Pregnancy With An Eating Disorder: HOPE VIRGO Mon, 27 Feb 2023 - 0h
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31 - "It's Not The End". Recovery after the Devastation of Stillbirth: KEJI MOSES of MAYAH'S LEGACY Mon, 13 Feb 2023
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30 - "No, I Am Not Fine!" P.T.S.D. and Birth Trauma: AMY LEIGH LOOPER Mon, 30 Jan 2023
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29 - BLUE MONDAY BONUS: It's Good To Walk: JUSTIN EADE, WELLBEING SPECIALIST Mon, 16 Jan 2023 - 0h
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28 - Our Altered Life - Parenting A Child With Disabilities: CHARLIE BESWICK Mon, 16 Jan 2023
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27 - I Was Called 'Aggressive' During My Labour: SANDRA IGWE of The Motherhood Group Mon, 02 Jan 2023
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26 - Mum Guilt, Trauma and Systemic Inequality: DR ORINAYO ONABANJO Mon, 12 Dec 2022 - 0h
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25 - I Felt Like A Bystander: PROFESSOR VIREN SWAMI Mon, 28 Nov 2022
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24 - Parenting With ADHD: CHRISTINE CUNNINGHAM of PERINATAL WELLBEING ONTARIO Mon, 14 Nov 2022
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23 - PND: Your Most Asked Questions Answered Mon, 31 Oct 2022 - 0h
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22 - Frightened of My Baby: EVE CANAVAN (MMHAW Special Pt.1) Mon, 02 May 2022
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21 - Maternal Mental Health Awareness Week Special: EVE CANAVAN Pt.2 Mon, 02 May 2022 - 0h
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20 - Bonding, Guilt & Psychosis - An Expert View: DR. ANDREW MAYERS Mon, 18 Apr 2022 - 0h
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19 - When Birth Leads To Trauma: DR. REBECCA MOORE Mon, 11 Apr 2022 - 0h
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18 - The Doula's Story: AJ SILVER of QUEER BIRTH CLUB Mon, 04 Apr 2022 - 0h
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17 - My mum's story - PND in the 60s & 70s: NINA SPILSTED Mon, 28 Mar 2022
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16 - Pregnant again within 3 months of birth: CHRISTINA BROWN Mon, 21 Mar 2022 - 0h
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15 - Having a baby made me manic: HANNAH HARDY-JONES (Part 2) Mon, 14 Mar 2022 - 0h
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14 - Having a baby made me manic: HANNAH HARDY-JONES (Part 1) Sun, 06 Mar 2022 - 0h
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13 - If you can survive PND, you can survive anything: LIZ WISE (Part 2) Mon, 28 Feb 2022 - 0h
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12 - Twins, Me and PND: LEONIE HUIE Mon, 21 Feb 2022
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11 - The Daddy Blues: MARK WILLIAMS (Part 2) Mon, 14 Feb 2022 - 0h
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10 - The Daddy Blues: MARK WILLIAMS (Part 1) Mon, 07 Feb 2022 - 0h
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9 - Helping Mums Help Themselves: NAOMI BUFFERY (Part 2) Mon, 31 Jan 2022 - 0h
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8 - The Self-Compassion Episode: POONAM DHUFFER (Part 2) Mon, 24 Jan 2022 - 0h
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7 - Loving Kindness Meditation Wed, 19 Jan 2022 - 0h
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6 - The Self-Compassion Episode: POONAM DHUFFER (Part 1) Mon, 17 Jan 2022 - 0h
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5 - I had to be the best, or else I was a failure: NAOMI BUFFERY (Part 1) Mon, 10 Jan 2022 - 0h
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4 - Dads Suffer Too. I Had PTSD after my daughter's Traumatic Birth: ELLIOTT RAE Mon, 03 Jan 2022 - 0h
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3 - The Lockdown Mum: EMILY GOLDHILL Mon, 27 Dec 2021 - 0h
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2 - Double cancer didn't cause depression. Giving birth did: LIZ WISE Mon, 20 Dec 2021 - 0h
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1 - Introduction to Blue MumDays Fri, 10 Dec 2021 - 0h